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2019-11-04 at 6:42 am #15423
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2019-11-08 at 3:37 pm #15517
supawat.cht
ParticipantI will not tell the information to my friend, anyway, I need to advice my friend to the best I could. So I would tell my friend on my work in general in order to make awareness on HIV infection. For example, how common are HIV patients, how to detect or what the benefit of early treatment. Also tell other friends too not the particular. And then I will advise them to see the doctor with their husband or wife.
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2019-11-09 at 6:52 pm #15523
Pacharapol Withayasakpunt
ParticipantApparently, in this case, it is impossible to tell my friend, despite feeling conflicted. However, it is possible to contact the medical personnel who deals with my friend’s husband, or telling my friend’s husband to be careful of others.
It is best to tell my friend nothing, and give no clues, as legally, it is intention that matters, whether telling the whole truth or not.
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2019-11-09 at 11:45 pm #15529
Ameen
ParticipantMaybe she knew, but no reason for her to tell me or anyone that her husband got the virus which is stigmatized. I think the treating doctor is obliged to tell her husband about the risk of transmitting to her and he/she might have done the duties.
However, no matter she knew or not, or with any goodwill, an informatician has no duties to release any information of the patient to anyone without consent or request by the patient. The obligation of informatician is to protect personal data by referring to the principle of information privacy and disposition.
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Ameen.
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2019-11-10 at 10:12 pm #15550
Pyae Phyo Aung
ParticipantI agree with that. No matter what the condition is, an informatician must never release the information without consent.
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2019-11-10 at 3:38 pm #15542
Chalermphon
ParticipantI think , the process of treats HIV have the counseling method to her husband and obtaining consent for disclosure of information that related about Right to Privacy, Right to liberty and security / freedom of movement, freedom from Inhuman and degrading treatment of punishment, Right to work and education, Right to social security and services, Right to equal protection of the Law , Right to treatment and care, Right to self-determination of affected groups and Right to marriage and family life. Disclosure of information to patients in medical care is guilty. But the treatment process will protect yourself. Except in the case that disclosure of information which may be confidential to patients not include HIV infection.
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2019-11-10 at 6:56 pm #15546
w.thanachol
ParticipantAs a health information professional, I should not tell my friend because I know this information accidentally during the research. Even though my friend might not know about it or already knew it, it is wrong to release the confidential information to others with out their consent. Also, telling this information is harm to the information’s owner directly.
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2019-11-10 at 10:09 pm #15549
Pyae Phyo Aung
ParticipantWhat should you do?
I should keep the confidential information still secret.
AS a health information professional – I can not tell my friend.
I can not interfere with other people or family issue.
Yes, my friend should not about this however I can not tell my friend about this information. May be my friend know about this and she does not tell anyone about this. Or may be she really don’t know about this, because her husband did not tell her. As soon as patient is diagnosed as HIV, counselor encourage the patient to disclose about this information to their partner and they should know that they are at risk. But disclose or not about the disease is right of the patient to make their own decision. -
2019-11-11 at 4:02 pm #15562
tullaya.sita
ParticipantThe health information professional should do nothing about this issue. Giving no clue or telling the diagnosis to no one is the fundamental of ethics consideration for this profession.
During the diagnosis and treatment of HIV infected patients, the doctor convinces patients in many sessions of counseling to bring their sexual partners to check for HIV. To identify and early treatment if the patient’s partners have the disease and also for the disease control.
It’s all about the take-caring physician and patients, not for third parties. You have no right to release this information without the patient’s consent. -
2019-11-12 at 12:06 am #15569
Saranath
KeymasterAs an informaticians, you should not release or disclose information of others without their consent. As this scenario is about HIV, a sensitive information, it’s obvious that disclose the patient’s information is not appropriate and may result in negative consequences.
What if your mom’s friend was admitted with general diseases (non-communicable disease), and your mom asked you to check on her’s friend medical condition. Would you do this?
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2019-11-12 at 8:35 am #15571
Nakarin
ParticipantTo answer this question, I will not tell her about her’s friend medical condition. It should be available for only the patient and his/her doctor as same as HIV scenario.
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2019-11-18 at 11:42 pm #15678
tullaya.sita
ParticipantThis is the same scenario with the case study, health information of anyone should not be released without consent. In this case, I will tell my mom to ask her friend directly.
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2019-11-19 at 10:38 pm #15686
Ameen
ParticipantThe same for any medical condition or any personal information, the privacy of a person is a basic right…no any proper reason for me to help my mom do such offensive…..If she still wanto….I’d ask what’d she feel if others do the same for her personal information….she would understand eventually … like MU’s motto….”Do unto others as you would have others do unto you”
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2019-11-14 at 10:12 pm #15604
THONGCHAI
ParticipantIn this case I will not tell the information to my friend. However I will advice to my friend how to HIV infection and protection.
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2019-11-24 at 9:03 am #15805
Penpitcha Thawong
ParticipantI agree with you all, as a health information professional, we shouldn’t release any information without consent. For this scenario, generally, the process to treat HIV infected patients also includes counseling services: how to take care of themself, how to prevent the spread of HIV to others, and how to talk with their family, for example. So, regarding our duty, we have to ignore and do not talk about this topic.
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2019-11-24 at 4:03 pm #15850
imktd8
ParticipantFor the first question, If I were a health information professional, I should not tell my friend. This is a personal credential data. As K’Tullaya said that during the diagnosis and treatment of HIV infected patients, the doctor convinces patients in many sessions of counseling to bring their sexual partners to check for HIV. I agree with this and I found this message from one paper to support about ‘Risk management & healthcare policy’ (please look following URL link below) — If the doctor is aware that a HIV-positive patient has not informed their sexual partner, it would be permissible for the doctor to alert that partner in order for them to take steps to avoid infection even if the patient refuses to consent to others being informed. Then I hope that my friend will know about her husband’s HIV infection.
Surely that…..“Information must not be disclosed to others eg, relatives who have not been and are not at risk of infection.” but!! in case of I am sure that my friend may not know about this and she will risk to HIV infection. In such circumstances, I should tell my friend’s husband before I make the disclosure.
Ref.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3270929/For the second question, my mom’s friend was admitted with general diseases (non-communicable disease), and my mom asked me to check on her’s friend medical condition. This is a personal credential data that should not be released without consent too. I will suggest or help my mom to ask her friend directly and may drive for her to visit her friend at the hospital (55)
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2019-11-24 at 11:12 pm #15865
Dr.Watcharee Arunsodsai
ParticipantFor the first question, If I were a health information professional, I should not tell my friend. This is miss-conduct of the regulation for data protection in general principle of data integrity and confidentiality. As Other friends said that during the diagnosis and treatment of HIV infected patients, the doctor should discuss with patients in many sessions of counseling to bring their sexual partners to check for HIV status. it would be permissible for the doctor to alert their partners in order for them to take steps to prevent transmission of infection even if the patient refuses to give consent to inform their own partners. Therefore, we can not interfere with other people or family issue. What I could do is just the recommendation of general health check-up and guidance to ensure the data safety because we are not the authorized person. Only this EMR is in the research protocol and get the permission from my friend’s husband to contact the partner after informed consent, then we have the obligation to do that.
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2019-11-25 at 8:47 pm #15885
weerawan.hat
ParticipantAs a health information professional, I cannot tell my friend and cannot interfere with other people issue. To be honest, my friend should be disclosed of her partner’s seropositive status and get HIV testing for family planning.
I need to respect for subjects, maintain and protect their privacy and do no harm to them. The subject has a right to hold or disclose the information. The subject will be encouraged and supported to perform the disclosure by the healthcare personnel during the routine HIV treatment.
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